Yeah, life isn't fair. The impression left by generations of blacks raping and assaulting women in a culture that defends, promotes and rewards predatory behavior means women might not automatically assume you're a paragon of virtue at first glance.
Obviously talking about white Americans, not Europeans. White Americans have never been systemically oppressed. Your reaction to the OP is a textbook case of white fragility [0].
White Americans are descended from Europeans, and the post was talking about being proud to be white, not "white American". Though I don't see why oppression is a requirement for pride - does achievement not suffice?
And "white fragility" is simply a way to dismiss objections without addressing if they are factual. So in that sense, your use of the term is correct. Any resistance is "white fragility", and the only way to avoid that accusation is to submit to and agree with every attack against whites.
>White Americans are descended from Europeans, and the post was talking about being proud to be white
White Americans have never experienced oppression in America. Full stop. Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This discussion is obviously about whites in the US.
>Though I don't see why oppression is a requirement for pride - does achievement not suffice?
It's not an achievement when you spent centuries conquering, colonizing, and extracting everything you can from BIPOCs. When you start out so far ahead in a race it's not an achievement when you win.
>And "white fragility" is simply a way to dismiss objections without addressing if they are factual.
I addressed them, you're not factual. White Americans recoil to the facts that they created and live in a society that upholds their supremacy.
> White Americans have never experienced oppression in America. Full stop. Europeans typically are not racialized and do not identify as white, instead as Italian, German, etc. This discussion is obviously about whites in the US.
Wow, this is an incredibly stupid comment.
If you simply looked at the history of Italian and Irish immigrants you would know so.
Italian and Irish were not considered "white" at the time. They were oppressed by the white majority. Lucky for them, after assimilation into American culture, they became impossible to distinguish from the white majority and so their persecution was relatively short lived.
If you are proud of your strengths you're compared to a violent conqueror. If you complain about unfair treatment or representation you're called fragile.
Nothing but heads-I-win-tails-you-lose bad faith arguments.
>Try reading up on plural systems before you make such judgements
Unfortunately we have.
>And don't hang around /r/SystemsCringe; it's a hate sub.
Stop. Stop right there. Laughing at the deranged lunacy of this stupid subculture is NOT HATE. Stop diluting the word "hate" to mean "any slight that goes against my narrative or the narratives of those I ally with." There are real hate groups out there spreading their filth and getting people killed. By diluting the seriousness of hatred, you're inadvertently giving them power. STOP. IT.
>Otherkin is not a fad
Yes it is. It's a fad like emo and goth, with tons of overlap.
>and it's not confined to Tumblr
Unfortunately.
> been around for decades, all over the net and real-life society.
So has emo and goth at this rate. You're proving my point.
>There's considerable overlap between otherkin and furry; otherkin is basically furry for fictional species.
>Anyway, furry/otherkin and plural people read and post here to Hackernews all the time
Chronically online people are online. Shocked I tell you!
>often as experts in their professional field. One of the most consistent producers of...
And often experts in our field are like me: tired of the attention seeking shenanigans like the "system" losers that we have to deal with and manage day to day. Every day chronically online socially awkward people will find some community of invented nonsense to differentiate themselves and play the victim. Nothing like a persecution fetish mixed with fantasy.
> There are real hate groups out there spreading their filth and getting people killed.
If you think that fora dedicated to laughing at what you call deranged subcultures are not spreading hate and getting people killed, you haven't been paying attention. One of the greatest contributors to the emulation community is dead because of Kiwi Farms, and they're not the only one.
It's hate. Get it out of your system. Or you may well find yourself quite unwelcome. Remember, furries run the internet.
>If you think that fora dedicated to laughing at what you call deranged subcultures are not spreading hate and getting people killed
I don't think, I know it's not. Using this illogic, subreddits and forums dedicated to cringing over Qanon, Trumpers, white people, antivaxxers, etc. are hate.
>One of the greatest contributors to the emulation community is dead because of Kiwi Farms, and they're not the only one.
Oh, you mean the deranged asshole that tried to extort the mods of KiwiFarms with their suicide and then proceeded to fake their suicide after the emu world got tired of his shit? This is the worst example you could cook up, and it's the one you cooked up LOL!
>It's hate.
It's not, it's simply pointing out the deranged nonsense, just like all those forums and subreddits dedicated to Qanon Trumpets are simply pointing put deranged nonsense.
>Or you may well find yourself quite unwelcome.
If leftists find me unwelcoming then that means I'm doing the right things.
>Remember, furries run the internet.
Remember, furries crap JavaShit into containers. The Internet is ran by white and Asian techbros.
>that it still has nothing in it that considers women equal to men, despite women's right to vote, pay taxes, own businesses, etc. being established decades ago.
Mind pointing out where exactly in the current, live form of the constitution where women are not considered equal to men?
>the puberty blocker exists solely to give them the time to choose, it's not the same thing as transitioning itself. Denying puberty blockers is letting nature force the choice.
Giving puberty blockers (steroids) to children cause irreversible developments (undersized genitalia, irreversible higher pitched voiced, etc. to males) and absolutely should not be given. Not allowing children to go through puberty is a crime against their humanity.
Children go through puberty anywhere from 8 to 19. Generations ago, 16 to 18 was fairly common. Going through puberty late does not equal never going through puberty.
That's natural puberty according to their natural biology. Feeding them hormones to "pause" puberty is denying them their basic humanity to go through puberty naturally.
No medical treatment is natural. You know what's natural? Infant mortality. Nature sucks.
If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by denying them medical treatment because of some concept of "natural".
You know what's natural? Children having identity crises and not being mentally developed enough to know the long term effects of their decisions. Nature sucks.
>If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by denying them medical treatment because of some concept of "natural".
If you cared about these kids you would learn about why they want puberty blockers rather than suggesting we torture them by pumping them full of steroids to destroy their bodies and denying them their natural development because it's politically expedient.
"Treating" "trans children" is a crime against humanity. Much the same way lobotomies, FGM, etc. are.
>You question ask a minor about the consequences of a procedure and judge if they understand it by how they respond.
OK groomer. This is the same logic pedophiles use. Children are not legally nor mentally capable of making such decisions. Full stop.
>But it's clear you, personally, are not capable of doing such a thing because you would instead prefer gaslighting.
Projecting about gaslighting is one of the signs of grooming. You're right, I'm not capable of doing something as morally bankrupt like grooming children.
No, it’s not the exact same logic, because I’m not discussing people’s immutable characteristics; I’m discussing communication styles, which are mutable, and the ideologies that tend to be associated with them, which are also mutable.
>No, it’s not the exact same logic, because I’m not discussing people’s immutable characteristics
It's literally the exact same logic, because racists discuss people's mutable characteristics as well.
>I’m discussing communication styles, which are mutable, and the ideologies that tend to be associated with them, which are also mutable.
You literally just described "SPEAK ENGLISH" and "if only Black people spoke properly and wore their pants up above their waist" (both mutable characteristics).
