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I've been pulling it off, but I have dual citizenship with EU/USA but still get paid in the US because it saves me 2k a month in taxes. There are also workarounds in avoiding paying the higher EU taxes.


> it saves me 2k a month in taxes. There are also workarounds in avoiding paying the higher EU taxes.

Interesting how in a different comment you say

> I want the same for all Spaniards and will gladly pay high taxes if my family, friends, and my neighbors can also have that same opportunity.


When the justice system gets fixed in Spain maybe I'll pay the taxes there again. It shouldn't take more than a year to get an okupa out. It's too slow. I milked that cow already. But thank you Spain for the free education and the scholarships!


I hadn’t realised that’s a thing (although I probably shouldn’t be surprised) -- I thought all these dual-citizenship tax agreements worked such that you aren’t double-taxed, but the total amount paid needs to meet the minimum for each country.

For example, I thought if you’re resident in the US you might pay your main taxes there, but you’d need to “top up” in the EU.

What’s your specific workaround?


It helps to travel with different legal names and different passports.


I tried to be generous and phrase my question in a balanced way; your answer isn't exactly making it sound super legal.

If it were completely above board, presumably you'd be willing and able to explain it clearly.


If you're living and working in California or New York, as I suspect a large number of hacker news readers are, EU taxes on income are generally not prohibitively more expensive, especially relative to increase in quality of life. 'Native' salaries are considerably lower, however, and tax treatment of equity-based compensation is very much not in favor of employees...


So you want to take advantage of European quality of life, social nets and infrastructure, but you don't want to help pay for it? How very American.


I've met a few Americans living like that in Portugal, there are communities that formed in some villages away from the main cities where real estate is very cheap since most villagers had died or moved out. They were proud of not paying Portuguese taxes, I couldn't understand how you can be proud of taking advantage of a society while not contributing financially to it to support the services you enjoy.

It's hard for me to understand this mentality...


The real question is why the Portuguese government is allowing this to happen?


NHR (the tax scheme that the parent is discussing) ended. If you didn't already move to Portugal under it, it's no longer available to you, so your question should really be in the past tense.

NHR 2.0 offers much reduced benefits and in a much narrower scope.


Once you get used to paying less taxes you don't want to go to paying more and getting the mostly the same. Healthcare costs is different. Also there's the high EU VAT taxes which are taxes already.


Sure, just don't live at a place where you are defrauding the tax system while extracting the most expensive benefits from it: education and healthcare.

Sounds smarmy as hell.


How much do you pay for health insurance in the US?


Very low, minimum amount that covers only emergencies. I use Europe for cheaper healthcare.


Wait, are you living in the EU? but you are being paid, and taxed in the US? You are not paying taxes for the public services you are consuming in the EU?


Do you spend more than 6mos in the EU?


I was getting spam called constantly every 5 minutes (blocked by Google call screening) and the attackers made an error if sending a message with their AWS bucket url. I was able to submit an abuse report to Amazon and puff Amazon dismantled the entire spam group. No more spam since then.

Maybe try saying the spam has porn or inappropriate images?


You can bypass this censorship with Starlink. Starlink does not block access like spanish ISPs


Or a VPN for a tenth of the price.


I love it too. Spain taxes paid me for all years full ride scholarships to anywhere in the world. Never needed to work while atudying. Then it allowed me to steal high paying jobs in the US with no student loans. And I wasn't even a good student, I was just poor AF. I want the same for all Spaniards and will gladly pay high taxes if my family, friends, and my neighbors can also have that same opportunity.


Glad I'm not alone in wanting this for others :)


From what I've seen in my family, since the cuban revolution, they've never properly incentivized agriculture. Farming even became forced labour as "farming school (escuela al campo)" that some students had to do. Farmers and their families left the countryside for the cities and never came back leaving agricultural land abandoned. They haven't been able to apply new technologies in farming, and new generations don't want that life.


I was in Moldova back in 2013 for a university org summer course and for me it somehow felt like being in Cuba. There weren't many tourists but everyone was very welcoming. You could see even between students the difference in pro-russians and pro-europeans. Weird thing is cut the hot water during the summer. Best wine I've ever had and it was home made from my friend's parent's cellar. Loved the time there.


Old Soviet style communities get hot water from central plants, mainly used for heating but also for showers, so when winter is over, they shutdown the heating plants for the season and no hot water at all. Some places in Northern China hook into muni hot water for showers in the winter but use solar hot water in the summer, when hot showers can be a bit less satisfying (in my experience anyways).


> Old Soviet style communities get hot water from central plants, mainly used for heating but also for showers, so when winter is over, they shutdown the heating plants for the season and no hot water at all.

That's not quite correct. Thermal power plants supply heat, but local water heating stations can typically work autonomously.

Hot water is typically turned off to allow for maintenance and tests. Hot water pipes corrode about 10-20 _times_ faster than cold water pipes.


District heating is common in many northern European cities, even Italy (e.g 55% of households in Turino). The USA has 2500 (as of 2013) such heating and cooling networks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_heating district cooling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_cooling


Lebanon has a non-functional government where all publicly-owned everything basically doesn't work. Beirut is essentially a libertarian enclave now, where everyone with means has their own solar panels and gas generators, self-produces all power, and the economy runs on paper US dollars and cryptocurrencies. It's amazing what people can do when their governments are non-existent.


How is police / crime doing?


Terrible, as is inflation, as is almost everything else, and in the south of the country you got hezbollah bombing things. I'm not Lebanese so just know what I know from close friends, but the comment read very strange to me. Life is very difficult there, none of the Lebanese I know want to move back. I'm not sure why OP painted it as an anarchist utopia, that's definitely not what I hear.


You also get Israel bombing the south of the country and a Syrian border run by drug cartels.

Agree with the sentiment on OP. These libertarian views are so often held by comfortable Americans who've never seen what an absence of government looks like.


The OP's handle of "monero-xmr" might give you a hint why.


I never said it was amazing, I said how the country is still functional and people are kept from starving to death, given the government is nonexistent


How is Hisbollah doing?


Makes sense, but when I asked most people answered that it was to save natural gas.


It is so incorrect, it is boderline idiotic urban legend. post-Soviet cities have hot water year around; same heating plants used for winter heating, are used for hot water in summer time, albeit at lower power. Also waste heat from power plants used for the same purpose.


I'll fact check you since I was born and grew up in Russia. No water most of the summer used to be the norm in my city. Checking as of today, in two cities I know central hot water is off every summer for 2+ weeks. My city improved and another one regressed. In a third city I asked about (one of the coldest) it's off for just single digit days.


What you describe is not normal today (unless we are talking about some Mukhosransk type of cities), and certainly was not normal in USSR, which kept civil infrastructure in a good shape.

As someone who is currently living in Central Asia, yes I do have no water for two weeks a year, they switch it off for "maintenance". However all last 5+ years, I had water through summer, with only occasional failures. We did have no heating one year, but water was all the time present.


Sure, they keep water hot in select cities, and the rest is Mukhosransk territory that doesn't matter. You could be from Moscow with that logic!

Respectfully you have no idea, planned hot water downtime in summer is reality for most cities in Russia (including SPb with official maximum length of two weeks), don't try to paint it look better than the mess it is.

Other post-Soviet countries probably do better, especially in Europe, but I have no info


have you read the original post?

> Old Soviet style communities get hot water from central plants, mainly used for heating but also for showers, so when winter is over, they shutdown the heating plants for the season and no hot water at all

Because if you reread it, you'll get the ridiculousness of that claim. So what you saying that situation in ex-USSR is such that there is only hot water during the winter. This is ridiculous, even taking into account grievances you have about Russian infrastructure.


It's almost as if USSR and China are vast territories and experience might vary.


Exactly my point.


Your point was "post-Soviet cities have hot water year around", and your point was wrong.


My point was that the original poster was wrong saying that Soviet and Post-soviet cities had and have hot water only during winters. This is idiocy; you know that, I know that. Right now, while I am writing, my relative is using hot water to wash her head.

What is your point?


"Right now my relative is using hot water to wash her head" is very far cry from "having water all year round"

By the way, that's not quite a flex since people still use hot water to wash heads when there's no central hot water. My friends and relatives in Russia were doing that before this month ;) Spoiler: kettles and buckets.

If you doubt me and have no one to ask then trust things like https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7lLlnmAAHt/. pretty sure Belaya Dacha markets to middle/upper middle class countrywide


You said

> It is so incorrect, it is boderline idiotic urban legend. post-Soviet cities have hot water year around.

Probably every city in Russia most certainly don't have water "all year around", and never have going back into USSR times.

How the plants work exactly I have nothing to say, but if there is an urban legend perpetuated here then I'll tell it which it is: it's how good soviet and Russian infrastructure is.


Even if you've never had to take cold showers in the summer, I have. I'm not sure why you can't believe our experiences would differ. The only reason I mentioned the USSR at all is because when I asked in China they said they got the system from them (and south of the Yangtze, you don't even get that).


Not sure what is your point. You've mentioned USSR and it was wrong, as Soviet System has never been like that - "hot water only during the winter". Ergo, you should not have brought up USSR.


They have good wines, as they can only compete through quality on the European market. Although before Russia set tariffs on Moldovan products they were only exporting awful sweet wines which they sold on the Russian market. I'm glad those days are over.


Purcari and Gitana are two staple names in the EU market.

I bought them for 10+ years from a friendly reseller. IMO they are still the best value proposition.


You should try Vinia Traian[1] then, It's very close to the Gagauzia autonomous region, located in the Valul lui Traian PGI[2]. Also anything from Slobozia Mare: Domeniile Davidescu, Vinaria din Vale. They also have Saperavi, a Gerogian grape variety. A popular Moldovan variety is Rara Neagra but you should be careful not to consume it alone without meat or cheese because it's an older variety, it's more acidic and might cause stomach burns if you drink anything in excess of several glasses. In Romania it's called Babeasca Nagra and in Ukraine it's known as Sereksiya. Purcari has a wine called Freedom Blend consisting of Saperavi, Rara Neagra and Bastrado, an Ukrainian variety. The name is obviously a pun.

  1. https://www.viniatraian.md/
  2. https://wineofmoldova.com/en/valul-lui-traian-pgi-region/


Off-topic, where can I find moldovan wines in the US, specially any rara neagra? I used to buy them in a store in Ohio (Jungle Jim's), but I don't live in the Midwest anymore.


"Weird thing is cut the hot water during the summer."

That's probably for the pipe maintenance. Even now in Russia the hot water gets cut off for a couple of weeks.


Had the reverse. Went there late October and it was unseasonably cold. Soviet style hotels only switch on the heating novemeber 1st though


Moved to the US many years ago after living in Asia and in Europe and I've struggled the most here in making friends and meeting new people. I thought it was me and even moved to a bigger city in the US and still find it hard to make meaningful connection with anyone. Like others mentioned maybe it's the American capitalism, or internet. I think also maybe cars (greater distance, individual travel, road rage, etc.) influence in how we feel lonely but still surrounded by people.


98 balloons left.


Definite twist on that lyric.


I agree and totally have done MDMA while dating someone. But as good as the high was, the breakup was/is the worst of my life because of these moments we had together that were x100 more intense.

Don't recommend doing this if you think you'll later break up.


>Don't recommend doing this if you think you'll later break up.

Meaning, statistically, you simply shouldn't.


how do you know if you need extra care from a hospital or something?


If you think you might, you do.


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