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I mean they literally just told you...

FYI, the Israeli socialists and left wing have always supported policies of militarist expansionism and the occupation.

When there was still a left wing in Israel, the left wing governments built more settlements than the right wing ones.


> The plan from the start was to take over the area for jews

This is true.

But denying Palestinians of any agency or fault is wrong. They made mistakes too. And if it’s wrong for Netanyahu to support Hamas, isn’t it just as wrong for any Palestinian to support them too?


Part of the problem for Israel is that it is becoming harder and harder to convince the world of its version of the “truth”.

And unrelated to that, Benjamin Netanyahu is about as truthful a man as Donald Trump is.


> i am very doubtful there will ever be a peaceful solution.

I wonder if there’s room for any actual discussion here. This topic is damned from the first upvote.

Curious what people’s thoughts are about a non-peaceful solution.

For example, do you think that other countries should send their militaries over to help one of the sides win?


Yes. Other Arab states should run Gaza after Hamas is destroyed to ensure Gaza is safe, wealthy and deradicalized.


The first and most important and existential order of business is accounting and decommissioning/transfer of the 200 illegal nukes from the country that built and hosted and still lies about them. It's not just about the middle east, its a matter of the entire worlds potential destruction into nuclear chaos due to nukes ilegally being in the hands of a paranoid violent entity with a long history of unprovoked aggressions.


All I can think is that there is no chance of proper peace talks or any kind of truth commission since oct 7 / the genocide in Gaza.

The most likely outcome in my view is that Israel succeeds in cleansing and redeveloping Gaza and keeps settling and splitting up the West Bank until the Palestinians become nothing but 2nd class citizens in a singular state.

This will not stop the terror attacks.

It's all very depressing. I think both sides have lost.


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Israel has put Gaza under siege & total blockade since 2006. The population has been used for low paid work in Israel and treated more or less like cattle.


Forcible accounting of the 200 nukes, their confiscation/decommissioning and crippling bloackades against the country illegally holding nukes and lying about them could be a beginning.


> they cannot think and feel clearly anymore if your neighbours dream constantly about your elimination

This is the biggest lie of all.

Israeli Jews constantly dream about eliminating the Palestinian people. We talk about it openly and without shame.

We discuss pros and cons in terms of security, legality, world public opinion, etc. These are the only considerations. We don’t see any humanity there. We just need their land.

That said, it’s true that some Palestinians have dreams of defending themselves from us.

I believe they need all the help they can get.


>Israeli Jews constantly dream about eliminating the Palestinian people. We talk about it openly and without shame.

We? speak for yourself loser


“ 82 percent of respondents supported the expulsion of Gaza's residents, while 56 percent favored expelling Palestinian citizens of Israel.”

“ Nearly half (47 percent) of respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants."

Israeli society has a very, very strong genocidal current.

https://archive.is/QvrVu


a poll of 1000 people in a country of 7 million..

ouch!!! got me!!!


> poll of 1000 people

Yes… that’s how polls work…

Do you have an actual rebuttal or have the wounds to your ego and identity rendered you incapable of substantive responses?

Genocidal attitudes pervade Israeli society; both its leaders and its citizens.

Surveys by the aChord Center at the Hebrew University found that 64% of Jewish Israelis believe there are "no innocent people" in the Gaza Strip

https://archive.is/IDoSk

“ Israel's military has dropped the prosecution of five reservists accused of the violent rape of a Palestinian man … The shocking incident in July 2024 was caught on CCTV and later broadcast on Israeli television“

“ In a statement, the country's Defence Minister Israel Katz welcomed a decision by the military's top prosecutor to drop the charges, declaring "justice has been served".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-13/israel-idf-drops-sde-...


If you don’t want to read about it then don’t read about it.

It’s taking the time to post a mean reply that shows your lack of compassion.


The rules are made by people. So it’s just people all the way down…


FWIW, if you do do one of these things, make sure you don’t feel guilty for it.


It’s worth mentioning that even if you find it possible to agree with some aspects of this, it’s impossible to reconcile the way everything is being done and the way its communicated with any kind of well meaning positive intentions.


"Y'all asked for the truth".


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