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how much of a clean room can you claim when you don't know exactly what code has your LLM looked at?

love the project of course, but LLMs are a huge caveat to such claims, which will be very hard to make credibly in the future for anything not entirely novel


We'll get to the point, if we're not already there, where you won't be able to tell if the artist actually did the work or just could have done it, and to which extent. Everything in the process can be essentially faked. If you put a massive emphasis on proving human work, you're essentially conceding you cannot tell without some sort of notary certification. We're in the lab diamond stage and clutching at some artificial authenticity.

people really believe this coordinated push across jurisdictions is about kids and verifying their age? this excuse to try to end pseudonimity on the web is as old as the mainstream internet itself

to a lot of people it never sat well that people could just go online and say whatever they want, and communicate with each other unsupervised at large scale, and be effectively untargetable while doing so - that model of the internet was only allowed because it happened under the radar and those uncomfortable with it have been fighting it since they got the memo


it's very odd that someone with no experience would take a big project like this and just jump to another language because he trusts the AI generated code of current models

if it works it works i guess, but it seems mad to me on the surface


Why do you think the creator behind SerenityOS has no experience? I mean it’s not the most popular OS out there but he seems like a capable individual.

in case it's not glaringly obvious from the comment, he has plenty of cpp experience and little rust experience, and that's according to his own comments

the relevant bit here is that he's porting from a language in which he has plenty of experience into another one in which he doesn't, in a large project

that in itself sounds like putting a lot of faith in LLMs but maybe there are factors not mentioned here, which is why i said "on the surface"


Indeed, the hard part won't the port, but the maintenance of that which got ported. To be fair though, he's probably going to be able to use the same techniques for that.

It's hard to articulate, but as someone who knows first hand, I just want to say that manic productivity is not the same as solid engineering.

Did you read the OP? No trust, only thorough verification.

I did, and the point stands because reading someone else's code is not the same as writing it, esp. when you're not able to do so to the same standard

Non sequitur. Again, no trust was involved, only verification through extreme testing.

Also, as others have pointed out, "someone with no experience" simply isn't true.


the trust element to me is jumping into a port, not specific code although code you didn't write in a language you're not an expert with, will ALWAYS introduce an added risk of falling into pitfalls you can only avoid with experience, the more the merrier

you're banking in the LLMs quite strongly when you do that, which may just work but i would be very worried about myself if i were in his boots


> code you didn't write

He did write it.

> you're banking in the LLMs quite strongly when you do that, which may just work but i would be very worried about myself if i were in his boots

I too would worry if it were you doing it.


> He did write it.

he did not, the LLM did it

> I too would worry if it were you doing it.

i would not worry about anything you do, because it's obvious you would never get to that point


"It" was the C++ code ... you don't even understand what you yourself wrote.

> i would not worry about anything you do, because it's obvious you would never get to that point

Childish whatabouting and projection. I will never respond to you again.


it's a solid business model actually

they failed to account for the fact that very similar effects are happening around the world in places where no investment was made to bring laptops to schools

these kids have smartphones and tablets and they spend countless hours on them, it's not that hard to see the effect this has


yep it seems like they're remaining niche, and thus prices barely move

why? so La Liga can more easily target smaller providers?

if anything the "world firewall" here has a redeeming feature, making this nonsense a lot more costly


Some people genuinely believe the european copyright system (and La Liga and the Spanish judiciary) has more than 0% legitimacy… is it truly that hard to imagine?

Collective punishment is such overreach that it's a violation of the Geneva conventions. You do that and you no longer have more than 0% legitimacy.

I meant even after the fact they still believe to some degree of legitimacy.

Believing that an action is legitimate when it isn't simply means that they're in error.

yep and that was Windows which introduced levels of latency and waiting times much worse than equivalent DOS software, but with easier to use and more intuitive menus instead of the usual DOS UI routine of either no menus or menus that showed with key combos, and power users knowing many key combination combos which weren't strictly necessary but both accelerated things and impressed newbs into thinking computers were too hard for them

on a 486, Lotus 1-2-3 was essentially instant - even from floppy disks it would run faster than excel does today on a top of the line machine


the brainrot from tiktok amplified with the brainrot from mastodon, what's not to love?

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