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This idea is adorable, but ultimately untenable if either country drifts in its views on how its citizens should behave.

I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns, and I suspect that the US is not quite on board with blasphemy/hurty-words laws. I suspect the divergence will grow.


> I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns

I'm putting this into my overflowing bucket of internet comments that doesn't "get" Canadians. Sorry to be curt but, since Canada-USA relations has been more at the forefront, I've seen too many comments that just "don't get it" and it riles me up each time.

They've had the 2nd amendment since their country was founded. It has no bearing on relations between the two countries, both at a micro and macro level.

We respect that they are their own country and have their own ways of doing things, which isn't even the same across each state. We respect US sovereignty over their own laws. It's the lack of respect for ours by the current US administration that is upsetting.

That's basically all its come down to. Oh, and the tariffs don't help either.


Also the idea that Canada is in any way anti-gun is ludicrous.

With very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles.

Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.


It doesn’t take too much effort to square the idea of being fine with firearms while not being a weapon-access absolutist. I’m able to have nuanced opinions about a lot of things that have negative externalities. Like how cigarettes kick ass but so do indoor smoking bans.

As an occasional pipe or cigar smoker... I'm personally trying to square this "cigarettes kick ass" thing with real world experience :-)

Really? How?


Simple. Cigarettes make you cool and hot, offering or bumming a light outside is instant chemistry to chat somebody up, and although I haven’t been a chronic smoker in probably a decade now, a drunk cig outside on a chilly night still hits like crack.

It’s not the heater itself, it’s everything else about them that is 10/10.


It's funny / overall-positive to compare how we seemingly see them to how my daughter's generation (18) sees them. In my 20s in the 90s despite being a mainly-non-smoker I felt/thought as you. That's not how my daughter or her peers think though.

I live in a pretty cosmopolitan city and I’m happy to report the kids are smoking free range all natural cigarettes again. Vaping is now uncool.

Oh these kids are all weed smokers (sigh) and eye rolling at flavoured nicotine vapers is def. a thing.

Right, so.

We're not anti-gun. Just anti the "only used explicitly for killing people" kind of gun.

I grew up and live in rural Canada. Rifles for hunting or farming are just part of life. Though the long gun registry did make them more of a hassle.

Why do you need a killing-person gun? What's that for?


> We're not anti-gun. Just anti the "only used explicitly for killing people" kind of gun.

That doesn't square with Canadian classifying tasers (purely defensive, non-lethal) and anti-materiel rifles as prohibited firearms. Not that those kinds of bans don't have some sort of legitimate public policy basis, but there's something else going on here.


I'm not yielding to your premise but I'll entertain it for a moment. Massive biological differences aside, the rough composition and weight of a deer isn't so much different than a human. An AR chambered in something like 6.5 is one of the most ergonomic and effective deer killing machines you could possibly use. Very light, able to make follow up shots easily, swappable magazines, insane aftermarket availability and cheap ammunition for training because nearly the entire US military uses the parts, etc etc.

How many deer are you trying to kill in one go??

That's not determined by the gun but rather the magazine. The 30 round magazine is popular largely because it's often the cheapest and most readily available as the tooling was scaled up for mass production for the military. You can buy a 5 round magazine to put in an AR style gun it's just harder to find and it's not clear you're gaining much beyond maybe a slight hair better ergonomics or mobility from certain shooting positions so most hunters don't buy them.

If you want to single-load cartridges or pin to a 3 round magazine or whatever, have at it. Most of the argument still applies and especially the cheapness and parts availability and intercompatibility with mass after market options. Plus you'll be able to use a larger mag when target shooting. Another plus even if you don't care about magazine size is you can easily swap the barrel (actually upper receiver) without having to legally buy a new gun, so you can train with very cheap .22 ammunition using all the same ergonomics / muscle memory for when you hunt deer.


You know what, I will accept that there's some decent arguments for why hunters would want access to ARs.

Do you think it makes sense that people that don't hunt would prefer for widely, easily accessible weapons to be largely less efficient at killing human beings? It feels like many gun owners and gun enthusiasts struggle to accept any compromise. And I won't say this is particular to them, I think most people have some pet regulatory peeve, but it sure makes it difficult to have conversations about it!


What you're running to in the USA is not a conversation on hunting but rather the 2A considerations, under which a fundamental quality of the weapons is availability of efficiency at killing human beings.

And this is what I'm trying to poke at. These conversations go nowhere with a certain milieux and a lot of it is driven by a values thing that emphasizes not just the 2A but a whole thing about "right to self-defense."

To which I would counterpoise -- self-defense from what? If your society is so degraded and broken that you need to be armed to the teeth you have much bigger problems than the government taking your handguns. That's a sign of a sick and broken society and individual firearms only make it worse. So "gun rights" is frankly the entirely wrong conversation.

Same with the whole thing of "well-armed militias" to defend from government. What? Do these people really think that a few sidearms and some ARs or whatever are going to deter an actual tyrannical regime by force?

That's simply not how any revolution has ever happened. They usually happen when governments lose legitimacy enough that the armed forces and police simply walk away from defending those in power. If you're in a shootout with the armed forces, you've already lost.

So, I also question the 2A people and what their actual motives are and who they intend to use the guns on.


can you back this up with how many hunters prefer going out with handguns as their weapon of choice for hunting deer?

There's actually a shit-ton of deer hunters in the US that hunt with .300 blackout under 16" barrel AR-type weapons that are legally "handguns." In part because the handgun-length barrel makes it less unwieldy when you add a suppressor on the end (if they put a stock on it, it becomes a short barreled [baddy] 'rifle' again but for retarded vestigial legal reasons they put a "brace" on it which does the same thing but magically means you don't need an NFA stamp). Though that was not directly question posed to which I answered.

It's kind of antiquated to use a "rifle"-length barrel for intermediate cartridge nowadays. The military uses a 14.5" barrel as standard issue for the AR-15 type rifle, which is "handgun" length, and most intermediate cartridges are handier and lighter in a legally handgun sized barrel for targets within the range of what you're likely to see in wooded areas. This means to use the most practical intermediate cartridge lengths you actually legally have a handgun with a "brace" on it.


I mean, I've not heard any of the hunters I know complaining about the efficacy of their hunting rifles for taking down deer, moose, or even bears.

It's my understanding hunters in Canada are often using the SKS for intermediate cartridge hunting, largely because it's/was cheap and wildly available, which was designed for killing people.

Everyone with a rifle and a hacksaw has ready access to a very loud handgun.

This... has... nothing to do... with how the 2 countries view guns or blasphemy laws (??).

This library worked well for a hundred of year, and then the US government decided they wanted to invade Canada, wage an economic war, and needed to protect their border at all cost in case an invasion of migrants would come from... that library.


Kristi "Dog Killer" Noem did a little act in the library where she jumped between the American and Canadian sides, saying "51st state" every time she went to the Canadian side. Which is unbelievably pathetic: When you have to deploy rape tactics to try to get someone to join you (while simultaneously trying to convince everyone how wonderful and great you are) -- something many in this administration are very accustomed to -- how completely busted and pathetic is your country?

This whole administration is just vile, and are long past the point where there should have been an uprising. Just an absolute idiocracy. A worldwide pariah, spiralling down the toilet.


I don't agree with most of what Germany does and I am sure they are not very fond of our (Switzerland) "liberal" gun laws, yet I can just walk/drive or take a train across the border and no one gives 2 cents.

Germans and your other neighbors call you guys weird, took me a while before I stopped by but for me - an American - Switzerland is perfect

guns, jets, immigration sovereignty and a disinterest in peer pressure about it, similar combination of cultural influences, publicly traded central bank that just creates money and buys US tech stocks and produces dividends, ATMs that dispense $200, $500 and $1000 denominations and nobody batting an eye about it

just some tweaks to life that stand out to me, all the other normal stuff is cool too

only citizenship I would consider trying to marry into


>lauds a foreign country for being anti immigration

>wants to immigrate there

>not by making an economical case that having you in the country will make them richer

>but by trying to marry a local

Real talk. You may want to delete this post before you actually do the citizenship by marriage thing, buddy. Marrying for the express intent of obtaining citizenship is generally considered citizenship fraud.


one out of many possible interpretations, pound sand

Ultimately its one country unilaterally acted the fool and is reaping the rewards of that idiocy. Any other explanation of what's going on is either willfully blind or so uninformed that they should not share their ideas with others.

My god, they want it so desperately to be something else they're willing to resort to complete misinformation.

There's some bizarre pseudo-libertarian contingent out there that seems to genuinely believing that Canada is some place where we arrest people with Jordan Peterson books off the street and that the Ottawa "trucker" convoy was some sort of colour revolution brutally stamped out by a Communist Regime(tm).

(When actually if said "truckers" had tried what they did on the US side of the border, DHS would have just shot them, and the vaccination law that they were supposedly protesting was a law demanded by the US and the Trudeau gov't tried multiple times to have it delayed/deferred)


Yeah, could be that, could be the open threat of invasion, I dunno.

Canada technically had a blasphemy law on the books until 2018, but it was basically gathering dust, the last conviction was in 1927.

He's just dog-whistling some disinformation about Canada's hate speech laws. In my experience where I've made the mistake of actually engaging... It's usually about trans people and pronouns and some family court case in BC that they spread half-facts about, and so on.

And Canada's hate speech laws are pretty reserved compared to some of their European counterparts. You pretty much have to be an actual goose-stepping Nazi or white robed Klansman to catch a charge.

"Hurty-words"

Remind me again -- which country is it that demands to see the content of your social media feeds at the border, and then chooses to deport (or worse, detain) you based on what your feed says about their president and his thieving gang of companions?

Or detains and deports academics with green cards based on their stated opinions about what's happening in Gaza?

I could go on.


>A French-Palestinian member of the European Parliament says she was denied entry into Canada only days before she was scheduled to participate in conferences in Montreal.

>Rima Hassan wrote online that she was "prevented" from coming to Canada in what she described as an attempt at censorship.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestin...


Yes, there's definitely bad on this side, too.

Cultural differences are not why this happened. This is explicitly because of the trump administration and its draconian approach to immigration. This is a very symbolic and sad thing to see happen

China has better execution.

China's aviation, chip, space, and military tech are weaker than those of the West.


Usually it’s better to have the best technology, but at some point execution and scale lead to having the best overall solution.

Having the best tech do not often result in the most sales.

But at the end of the day nobody cares that much about what could possibly be produced, they care a lot about what is actually produced.

Agreed!

The CCP still hasn't figured out that we'll take their money and still hate them.

Western civilization has been sneaky and duplicitous for centuries, and we're good at it.


Sort of how Microsoft made Windows 8 look like a Zune.

Zune was low key pretty damn solid. (Yes, I lived in Redmond as a teenager.) In fact I may even say it was their last gasp of a solid user interface. Right before Vista.

Zune HD was itself based on the UI design of Windows Media Center: https://www.redmondpie.com/windows-media-center-in-windows-7...

I cherish the month I spent helping a printing press company. RGB is just the start. Heck, CYMK isn't enough for all the weird inks like neon pink, silver or UV.

I present you the Interior Designer’s weapon of mass disruption: NCS.

Worse still: European urban development projects have adopted it. I never knew there could be so many varieties of ‘ochre’.


But they did need to shore up that p/e ratio. Got to assuage our inner Ben Graham.

"four types of countries: developed, underdeveloped, Japan, and Argentina." -Simon Kuznet.

Men have significant estrogen:

Men: roughly 10–40 pg/mL Women (not at ovulation): roughly 30–40 pg/mL

At Ovulation, women spike. Hence, libido changes. If you know, you know.


Think you. I didn't know there was such overlap in the levels between both genders. Do men's levels also take a hit with age?

Those numbers are bullshit. The bottom of a grown woman’s cycle is around 100 pg/ml. I have no idea where they’re getting those numbers but I assure you they’re wrong, and even if they were remotely correct about E levels being close to one another at some point in the cycle the majority of the time they’re much farther apart.

Counterpoint: AI makes refactoring so much easier. Many of our monolithic code bases have gotten smaller and more organized because we were too lazy to refactor.

When your AI slides, make a permanent test that catches that particular slide. Then have it run all the tests every time it does something significant.

We have as much test code as deployable code because the AI keeps finding ways to do what we told it to, but not what we meant.


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