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The N=2 Interview about Ph.D.s in Computer Science (pgbovine.net)
63 points by azhenley on Aug 28, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments


I love the idea of doing an "interview" over Google Docs. That way you can ask one question and have multiple people respond at the same time.

Great read. Thanks again @pgbovine!


Ytalk reinvented bbadly.


How can the second guy, Eugene Wu, possibly be a professor straight after getting his PhD? That's insane! In the UK you'd have to do probably 20 years after your PhD as a postdoc and then lecturer before you could remotely hope to get a chair. How come he's gotten it immediately?


Yeah, it's quite common in the US in CS. I think you may also be confused because "professor" in the US is still used even for the lowest-ranked tenure-track positions (and even for adjuncts).


Assistant professor is the entry-level academic position in the US.

Many people do a postdoc first, but it's not uncommon to go straight to assistant professor right after getting your Ph.D., especially if you came out of a renowned school like MIT.


eugene is just THAT good. and also in the U.S., the first tenure-track position after a Ph.D. is called "assistant professor", which differs from terminology used in other countries.


It's all supply and demand.

If you are a top grad at a top program in CS, there tends to be enough faculty spots. Some day far in the future when funding dries up and the field gets older, I assume there will be fewer open spots vs. recent PhDs, so more and more grads will have to do extended postdocs to prove themselves worthy of a faculty position.


lecturer in uk = assistant professor (tenure track) in usa

senior lecturer? in uk = associate professor (with tenure) in usa


In the UK the pecking order is:

PhD Student

Postdoc

Lecturer

Reader

Professor

There are various higher positions like head of department/faculty and prestigious professorships, e.g. the Lucasian Chair in Cambridge.

Lecturer is normally the first 'tenure track' job people get after being a postdoc for a few years. It's the first of the permanent placements you can get. That said, postdoc is a catch-all and doesn't necessarily mean fresh grad. There are postdocs in my group who are nearing retirement and have stable jobs.


It is field and country dependent. In CS in the US, postdocs are relatively new so it is common to go straight to a faculty position.


Technically in the UK it is:

Post doc Lecturer A (probation) Lecturer B (tenured) Senior lecturer Reader Professor Senior/Research Professor or Named Chair Emeritus Professor




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