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> I'm sick of tired of the hiring strawman. The reason there's a scarcity of women and other minorities is that many companies have a culture that's full of toxic sewage.

Correlation does not imply causation. Is rampant systemic sexism the reason why most oil rig workers are male? Is rampant systemic sexism the reason why 95% of child care teachers are women?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gatn5ameRr8

Disparate outcomes do not imply disparate treatment.



> Is rampant systemic sexism the reason why 95% of child care teachers are women?

Yes, absolutely. Men are generally treated very poorly if they choose to voluntarily work with small children.


"Correlation does not imply causation". The go-to of the armchair scientist. It doesn't imply there isn't causation, either.

We have plenty of evidence of rampant systemic sexism. We have plenty of evidence that women left the field due to that sexism. We have evidence that the field's composition changed fairly recently (in the late eighties). We have evidence the culture changed around that same time.

If you would like to make your gender-essentialist case, you should at least try to build a model that explains these things, instead of asking empty rhetorical questions.

Most importantly, I suggest staying in the industry we're discussing, as opposed to bringing up straw men outside of it.


We do not have plenty of evidence of rampant systemic sexism. That is not a self-evident truth unless you're bought into the ideology pushing that agenda. Next.


We do. It is exactly what we have - plenty of evidence of systematic sexism in tech, many other industries Ana society as a whole. It is so evident that nothing is left to debate about this fact.




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