Am I the only person missing the old C&C style games, before Generals?
I'm not saying C&C:Generals was a bad game - it was quite popular - but from design point of view it was a Starcraft clone. They abandoned the old, quirky Dune2/C&C design with low count, remote harvesters, multiple factories which only sped up the rate of production, instantly deployed buildings, instant selling etc. These things had some flaws, but also advantages, and most importantly - they resulted in a different experience. I think C&C: Red Alert 2 was the high point of that design. Optimal action speed, counters that weren't too hard, varied units.
Pretty sure the press release is from the end of 2018. The game is still in development and you can follow along with development updates on the subreddit. Can’t comment on the timeline but it’s making exciting progress and I can’t wait to play it when it’s released (I’m tangentially involved on the EA/publisher side).
This may be unpopular, but I enjoyed the entire C&C run right to the very end. This includes the first-person shooter stint along with the "mobile MCV" stint.
Kane as a character holds a place in my heart and memory, as does Tiberium. Soundtracks and cut scenes were great too.
May I enjoy this block of Memory Lane as much as I am able.
That FPS was C&C: Renegade, and I absolutely enjoyed it too. It had all the cheesy dialogue and cliché elements that kinda gave C&C an 80s action movie flick flair, and I was really disappointed that it wasn't so successful. I think that the multiplayer parts weren't really refined enough to make it a hit... there was too much "base-building-components" for an MP game, I think they should've went with a "Battlefield 1942"-style of gameplay... holy crap, now that would've been awesome! EDIT: They were released around the same time, so there wasn't any blueprint for the BF1942 style of gameplay around at the time. I think making vehicles spawn for everyone and not tying it to your success is part of what made BF1942 so popular in the day.
Of all the RTS games from C&C, RA2 was my favorite. Tiberium Sun was just a stone throw before my time, so when I played it, I was missing all the new elements from RA2. It's no fault of TS, just that I have already been "spoilt" by that time...
Tiberium Wars was also pretty nice, though I only played some LAN skirmishes with friends, never the campaign. But from the looks of things, it was the last "real" RTS in the C&C series. The latest two RTS installments, RA3 and the last Tiberium one, already forgot what it's called, were just trash, IMHO. In the latter, the publisher (EA?) was obviously trying to kill two birds with one stone, i.e. make a game for both PC and mobile markets, and C&C was the guinea pig brought in. Obviously, the publisher had no idea what C&C is about and where its true value lies. That's some pretty bad management, actually, but that publisher is known for treating their consumers like replaceable goods, completely neglecting any artistic value a game might have and the therefore resulting fan-base/community like consumer-behaviour.
I loved Generals the most, especially for it's rock paper scissors system where every unit, including the most powerfull and armored ones, had a few it was vulnerable against.
But they made it too realistic so the gameplay and units were really slow so games can get long and boring after a while.
I only played RTS for single player. That is also how I started playing it since Dune II in 1993 as my first (I bought and played C&C, RA, WC2, WC3 when they were released).
What happened is that players have become better, better, better. Same as in WoW. It is due to documentation and theorycrafting being more widely available.
That, and the MOBA genre, is what happened to RTS. Multi-player game is also more difficult to pirate, and allows for a cash shop due to vanity items. Means RIP single player. And multi-player RTS is very competitive ie. not casual-friendly. It is not forgiving either.
Come play starcraft remastered. I've been playing fastest map, BGH, and even some ladder, it's super fun! I feel badly as there are many newer players that I sort of crush, but that's always been custom games. Ladder matches, well I'm the n00b there and I usually lose 80% of those.
If nothing else I feel C&C has remained popular in the internet zeitgeist. The series is very ”meme-able”, especially Red Alert and Generals due to their quirkiness of geopolitical issues that have always remained hot topics to a western fanbase (Russia, China and the Middle East).
I can't personally vouch for the game, but it looks worth a try and describes itself as:
> Rusted Warfare is an fully featured RTS inspired by classic real-time strategy games such as Total Annihilation and Command and Conquer.
> A pure RTS with no microtransactions and no DRM, Online and offline multiplayer over wifi and mobile networks
and is rated 4.8 in the android store. As someone who has trouble finding games that aren't shitware in app stores, this looks genuinely worth looking into and on topic.
I'm not saying C&C:Generals was a bad game - it was quite popular - but from design point of view it was a Starcraft clone. They abandoned the old, quirky Dune2/C&C design with low count, remote harvesters, multiple factories which only sped up the rate of production, instantly deployed buildings, instant selling etc. These things had some flaws, but also advantages, and most importantly - they resulted in a different experience. I think C&C: Red Alert 2 was the high point of that design. Optimal action speed, counters that weren't too hard, varied units.