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curious. i don't have a machine to mix the dough. the only way to get everything mixed evenly is to start kneading it...


That's okay, you can mix it by hand and it will work without issue (it's what our ancestors did for thousands of years). But if you don't want to knead for 10-15 minutes, if you roughly mix the water and flour then wait 10 minutes and then start kneading you'll find it takes much less time and effort to get the same result.


what i was getting at is, that i can't really tell where the mixing stops and the kneading starts :-)

"mix roughly" gives me a hint though...




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