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> Unless you mean that the sanctity of marriage is based on the ability of one party to stick their thing in the other and produce a baby.

I would say exactly that. I would even go so far as to say that a marriage where it is known before hand that the heterosexual couple is infertile is not a "real" marriage.

Of course the whole point of marriage is the biological production of the next generation.



> I would say exactly that. I would even go so far as to say that a marriage where it is known before hand that the heterosexual couple is infertile is not a "real" marriage.

Wow. So a couple that chooses to be married yet chooses no children is also not a "real" marriage?


I would say that's so.


Fantastic. I'll go tell three married couples I know that their marriages are invalid.


Not invalid, just inferior to "real" marriages, which produce biological children.

Again, this is a critical distinction between liberals and conservatives. Liberals are obsessed with making sure everyone feels equal and unoffended. Conservatives do not shy away from the reality that not everyone and everything are of equal value. From the perspective of society a biologically fruitful marriage is a superior thing and deserves special status. Sorry if that hurts feelings.


inferior to "real" marriages, which produce biological children

I don't understand. Do we need more people? Is there a population shortage? Six billion isn't enough for what exactly?


We're getting a bit into the meaning of life here now surely ;)

I'd say we need more smart people.

It would be scary if the smart people stop having kids. The world would be taken over by stupidity.


I'd say we need more smart people.

Then I have a simple suggestion based on the same wide-ranging generalisations you base your reasoning on:

Make marriage illegal for all the heterosexual couples who believe that same-sex marriage should be illegal.


Have you read any newspapers lately?


>Conservatives do not shy away from the reality...

Um, Jesus walking on water? Talking snakes? Worshiping a book that condones slavery? Believing that there is a "God" that just popped into being out of nowhere existing beyond time, and that this idea is more likely than the universe just always existing beyond time?

The Branch Davidians called. They want their delusion back.

BTW your comments about liberals don't apply to all of us. I'd be very happy to offend you, and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard, since you seem to be a conservative.


No, it doesn't hurt my feelings. I just think the assertion that marriages that produce children are automatically better for society than those that do not is ridiculous.




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