Awesome. The stream about Genode on the Pinephone approaching real world usability sounds hopeful. :)

https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/event/fosdem-2024-3017-geno...

There was a session about Genode on the Pinephone last year too, but apparently the recording didn't work properly so it never made it online.

Note that some video streams are only available via Matrix chat, eg to watch the Virtualization devroom talks you have to use the Chat link on this page: https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/room/ub2147/ (anyone know why this is?)

The streams are a great addition. Being here in person is chaos and the well attended sessions are almost impossible to see.

Thanks, having the talks accessible will be helpful as well since some of them are either too full or with terrible mics/sound.

I've definitely been to many FOSDEM talks where the room was too full and they weren't letting any more people enter.

I haven't been to FOSDEM since pre-COVID but the last once or twice I went I pretty much came to the conclusion that the only sensible strategy (especially given the availability of recordings) was to pick a devroom with talks/people you were mostly interested in and hang there.

Trying to hop from session to session was just a recipe for frustration. At the end of the day, there are probably twice the number of people than the various facilities can really support.

Today the JS devroom if way too full and the sound in the container devroom makes it very hard to understand the speakers :/ Everyone is very nice and helpful though

How does a livestream help make something accessible when the microphone is terrible?

I was mostly thinking about when rooms are too full but if the audio is recorded properly, it's still better than nothing and also I'm not sure if the sound was bad in some rooms because of the mic or because of the loud speakers; a recording might be better in the second case I suppose.

kind of miss n-gate coverage of FOSDEM to be honest, it was great for putting stuff in (sarcastic) perspective. More conferences should have a treatment like that.

Does anyone know what happened to them?

In true n-gate fashion I believe the n-gate collapsed under the increasingly worse takes he had to come up with to counter the bad takes the n-gate witnessed from an hackernews. The parody indistinguishable from the idea of the original that was lost years ago, in a blurry confusion of what was and what the thought of what it was was. Having lost the meaning of its existence, it merely ceased to exist.

When it comes to applications, Android is very different from any Linux distro. Android apps rely almost entirely on Google made additions on top. Something like waydroid could bridge the gap but I don't have first hand experience how good it is.

Linux is just a kernel which means that someone needs to develop the userspace. There are plenty of distributions of Android, but it will be pretty different if you swap out the user space with something else entirely.

Ubuntu Touch has nothing of value in its app store. Even the mail client sucks completely.

It's very difficult to find Linux apps that work well with touch controls.

Apps on the Play Store are almost all designed with touch controls in mind.

> People who think this more likely don't realize that Android uses the Linux kernel

Do you really think people at the FOSDEM don't know this? And saying that android use the linux kernel is honestly close to saying that mac os use Unix... Plus the userland and systems api are fully google proprietary, you couldn't just make a android app work "on linux".