Price point: $384. With an LCD. This isn't even close to comparable to the product they're trying to make. So to close the gap, you say:
> Drop the camera, the touch screen, the battery and the enclosure, I bet you I could get a deal for these boards well under $50 for 10,000+ lots.
Engineering tightly integrated consumer electronics products like these isn't a menu. You can't just "unplug" the monitor "remove" the battery and then repackage it. Redesign of a processor board of this complexity isn't a picnic; it takes significant EE expertise.
And with an initial price point almost 4x that Ouya promises? Please. This isn't "comparable" at all. You want a comparable piece of hardware? See http://trimslice.com/web/order-direct. Twice the price point with significantly less horsepower. That's what people are probably going to get in the end with this project.
Firstly, the question was "there is no comparable system on the market with those specs," I was pointing out there was a system with those specs, which has already been cloned.
Secondly, the screen, battery, and about 50% of the time the camera, are NOT integral on the board. They plug into headers. I'm not sure who's misinformed you of this, but not everyone designs like Apple. And yes, I can "just remove the screen, battery, and likely the camera." I just don't plug them into the headers. How many EEs do you think are working in China for these manufacturers?
Thirdly, it's interesting that you have both insight into the margins of several different hardware manufacturers and also into the internal R&D discussions of Ouya to know that they are going to end up selling a $200 Tegra2 instead of a $99 Tegra3 device. Gosh, they should've just hired you, no?
Why so aggressive arguing that they can't do it? It's one thing to be suspicious (and I, am suspicious as to their ability to hold reasonable overall margins unless they intend to make over 50k of these), it's another to spread FUD that something is impossible.
You CAN'T just unplug the screen, battery, and camera from the board and then stuff it into a new form factor. The board will have to be redesigned to fit into a new form factor and accommodate new peripherals. This will take significant time and effort, regardless of whether the engineering is done in the US, China, or Zimbabwe.
> Thirdly, it's interesting that you have both insight into the margins of several different hardware manufacturers and also into the internal R&D discussions of Ouya to know that they are going to end up selling a $200 Tegra2 instead of a $99 Tegra3 device. Gosh, they should've just hired you, no?
This is just silly. I point out a system on the market with much closer specs to what Ouya is trying to accomplish (no screen, similar outputs, etc) and point out that's still twice their price point. I have seen no evidence from Ouya, you, or anyone else that they can do anything different. Until then, I'll remain skeptical that they'll deliver on their promises.
> Why so aggressive arguing that they can't do it?
It'd be awesome if they pulled it off; I'm just pointing out that they probably won't. And if I came off as aggressive, it's because of all the armchair engineers around here who think consumer hardware design is a walk in the park that can be completed on a whim in an instant.
> it's another to spread FUD that something is impossible.
Go find where I said "impossible". My entire post just points out how unlikely it is this project is going to deliver what it promises.
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Price point: $384. With an LCD. This isn't even close to comparable to the product they're trying to make. So to close the gap, you say:
> Drop the camera, the touch screen, the battery and the enclosure, I bet you I could get a deal for these boards well under $50 for 10,000+ lots.
Engineering tightly integrated consumer electronics products like these isn't a menu. You can't just "unplug" the monitor "remove" the battery and then repackage it. Redesign of a processor board of this complexity isn't a picnic; it takes significant EE expertise.
And with an initial price point almost 4x that Ouya promises? Please. This isn't "comparable" at all. You want a comparable piece of hardware? See http://trimslice.com/web/order-direct. Twice the price point with significantly less horsepower. That's what people are probably going to get in the end with this project.