I'm not sure what if anything we disagree on at this point.
My main point (to the extent I was trying to make one) was that I found the reporting on this issue to be irresponsible, particularly the prominent citing of statistics that the survey authors themselves warned readers from using in that exact way.
Taking several steps back from the issue, I'm not sure the fundamental implicit assumptions that are being made by the NSF here are realistic.
Yes, the issues they're discussing are Bad, and shouldn't happen. But those Bad issues also happen in society at large.
The NSF is effectively creating a small town in Antarctica. It doesn't seem realistic to me to expect what's essentially a small town mostly filled with civilians to conform to HR rule 24/7/365.
At some point it seem like the right structure to run such a thing is the normal structures we've created in society for dealing with these sorts of issues.
Would a small town shut down its bars to some degree because of the "town HR" learning about whatever happened there between various parties "after work", most of which wouldn't rise to the level of criminal or civil offenses?
That, or running it like a military base, which they did away with.
I'm not sure what if anything we disagree on at this point.
My main point (to the extent I was trying to make one) was that I found the reporting on this issue to be irresponsible, particularly the prominent citing of statistics that the survey authors themselves warned readers from using in that exact way.
Taking several steps back from the issue, I'm not sure the fundamental implicit assumptions that are being made by the NSF here are realistic.
Yes, the issues they're discussing are Bad, and shouldn't happen. But those Bad issues also happen in society at large.
The NSF is effectively creating a small town in Antarctica. It doesn't seem realistic to me to expect what's essentially a small town mostly filled with civilians to conform to HR rule 24/7/365.
At some point it seem like the right structure to run such a thing is the normal structures we've created in society for dealing with these sorts of issues.
Would a small town shut down its bars to some degree because of the "town HR" learning about whatever happened there between various parties "after work", most of which wouldn't rise to the level of criminal or civil offenses?
That, or running it like a military base, which they did away with.