I'm not sure what I said that was so terrible. I think Leah is great and I really hate hear news like this. I also agree that the service was good. My sole point is that companies that use this service also get hurt by this shutdown. When it happens several times as it unfortunately has in her case, you start to worry about new ventures disappearing too.

It is in no way a shot at Leah or her work. It's just a recognition of history.

Your first sentence was the thing you said that was so terrible.

But every sentence afterwards put it in context.

I don't agree. You can't start with a statement like that and then backpeddle - your lede has the most impact and is what people remember.

He had a chance to edit his post to better reflect his position, but chose not to take it. I wish he had.

(And to complete this, lets not forget that Rayne is also a person who just made a mistake. It is the action which is bad, not the person).

He didn't backpedal, he explained his reasoning for making the first statement. Hard and a bit unvarnished, yes, but understandable.

I agree. Best of luck and keep coding!

What's with the hagiography? Culver made things people came to depend on, then those things disappeared.

I don't see how this is any different than picking up women and telling them you think they're serious girlfriend material in a context (business services) where that's the expected standard, then dropping them for the new hot thing.

Why is it suddenly acceptable to do this just because they called themselves a startup?

You're making statements which depend on information you don't have. How do you know grove.io was dropped for the new hot thing? Perhaps they weren't making money. Perhaps they were being destroyed by the two larger startups in the space?

Why do you assume the worst of this company? The rest of your statements in this thread are really aggressive, and rely on very negative assumptions, which do not seem to have a basis in fact.

>How do you know grove.io was dropped for the new hot thing?

Because that's what happened to her last six projects?

Are you completely incapable of inductive reasoning or are you being obtuse so that you can make the total unaccountability of SV founders a moral crusade?

Wow, that escalated quickly. Try to remember that you're talking to and about other people. Jumping to the worst possible assumption about other people is not a kind thing to do, but it's all I've seen you do in this thread. As a result, I'm out.