And Slow Horses, which is perhaps my favorite show in years. I'm not a big TV watcher, and this show got me to subscribe (at least for a while) to Apple TV.

Try Pluribus. We just finished S01. Also pretty good.

Calling AppleTV low quality doesn't fit. The rest, yeah. Pretty useless.

Commercials in TV+ are as bad as ads in News+, e.g. it seems I cannot open the app without getting blasted at with a Peacock commercial.

What? I’ve never seen a single commercial on an Apple TV+ show.

Something like 70% of the comments I've seen on this thread show that either:

1) The user has never owned an Apple Device in their life. 2) They are trolling super hard.

There are complaints to be had that I definitely agree with, however, I see a TON of fiction for every single legitimate complaint.

No, not an Apple employee, shareholder, etc. (I am broke and dependent on my wife because I am disabled lol)

I've been an Apple One subscriber for over three years now. For the past few months, as soon as you open the TV+ app, a Peacock ad starts playing really loud.

I’m wondering what platform you are using TV+ on.

An Apple TV.

So weird I don’t have anything like that on mine

Maybe you’re not an Apple TV+ subscriber, then.

I am

Then I don’t know what to tell you. I just opened the app again, and right there in the home section I’m seeing an ad for the Super Bowl in Peacock. If you don’t get that, great, but I’m far from the only one complaining about it.

All I see is shrinking I. Home and Apple TV page. May e you have peacock linked? I do t use peacock

You can control what apps are allowed to put trailers in the home screen.

It sounds like the OP is complaining about Apple when they should be complaining about Peacock.

I don’t have Peacock either.

It would be great if folks would stop assuming this is on me and not Apple. There are Peacock ads in the TV app Home Screen, and they are targeted to One Family and Premier subscribers.

We are assuming it’s you because nobody else sees it nor does it seem to be reported on. Something doesn’t add up.

Look it up in Reddit, then [0]. Or re-read this thread. I’m far from the only one having this experience.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/appletv/comments/1pgyfcx/the_peacoc...

Are you not able to think of a simple concept of "maybe the ads are regional" and you need to immediately jump to dumb conspiracy theories?

They've had a commercial (trailer) before every show / movie we've watched in the past week. We can skip them, but they are there.

You haven't seen Apple product placement in their shows?

Servant was a walking ad for iPhones and Facetime lol

It's right when you open the TV+ app.

Weird, there are none when you use the appletv device

I use an Apple TV.

Maybe it’s just me. I’ve been an Apple One subscriber for a long time now. The Peacock commercial I’m talking about plays right when I open the app, almost full screen and quite loud. It seems to be some sort of add-on offer for Apple One subscribers.

When you open which app? The appletv app on the device?

I’m not sure what you’re asking. I clearly stated that the Apple TV app has ads when I open it from my Apple TV device.

the promos for other shows are commercials

What’s your point, exactly? They are still commercials.

To me there's a very distinct difference between unobtrusive same-service tasteful trailers and entirely unrelated third party ads.

I genuinely discovered great series and films that I enjoyed a lot but I would not have watched otherwise (e.g Shrinking).

This is true for cinema as well.

While I agree that third party advertising is not the same as playing trailers from other same platform shows, once you are in the app, these highly promoted shows are really hard to miss, regardless of how many trailers are placed at the beginning of another show.

For Shrinking, for instance, they placed an almost full screen, auto play trailer in the main carousel. It is also first in the top ten shows, and it appears in a number of other lists.

Regardless of all this, they do play unrelated promotions for their add ons like some sports stuff or the Peacock deal.

TV productions are a product, not a service. Apple TV is the service.

Apple has a tv service and Apple also has exclusive content, which they brand with “Apple TV”…so it’s kind of both.

Same for the other big streaming services. Some of them (Netflix, Prime Video) are more involved in content production, up to and including having production facilities and an in house staff. But a lot of the “exclusive” branded content is made by semi-independent production companies.

> Apple has a tv service and Apple also has exclusive content, which they brand with “Apple TV”…

And of course the device itself. I wish they would have distinct names.

Which makes it even more tragic that the few good streaming shows produced recently are all on a network no one watches.

I am glad that they bought the rights to Brandon Sanderson's books, because I know Netflix wouldn't do them justice and Amazon prime would be far worse than that, but it also means that it will have a tenth of the available audience that a Netflix contract would have brought.

If they were serving the mass market then they would be making trash like Netflix.

I'm not sure how causality works on that one. Netflix made great stuff, back when streaming was still a small market, then they got big and started making trash.

It's not like they weren't trying to attract everyone when they were releasing content worth watching. Maybe it's because they didn't have any feedback yet on what works, so they couldn't even try to make safe bets, instead creating a little of everything, with most of it being bland, but a surprising portion being top-tier.

Hmm, your comment resonates in principle [caring about quality production of worthwhile narratives], but your specific examples show how much YMMV when it comes to subjective preferences. I was so grateful that Amazon Prime somehow did justice to The Expanse [I highly recommend the novels, and feel the show was one of the best-ever translations of sci-fi to the screen] and could never get into the Wheel of Time book series [tho I guess that was Jordan, not Sanderson, shrug].

Amazon didn't start The Expanse as a TV show, though. They bought it after Sci-Fi ran it then cancelled it. They didn't screw it up after that, but that's a very different sequence from creating it themselves.

Compare to their much-ballyhooed exercise in lighting money on fire that was their LOTR series.

I will never forgive them buying the rights to Utopia (UK) - probably the greatest show ever made - and remaking it into absolute shit. Just thinking about it makes my blood boil. Fuck Amazon (even if The Expanse was pretty good)