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> unprovoked is "why now?"

The protest massacres opening up an opportunity for regime change, I think that's ultimately what pushed Israel and the US to take action.

> Israel itself has funded some of those same proxies

Israel facilitating aid/funds into Gaza for humanitarian reasons which often got diverted by Hamas is not the same as Israel funding Hamas.

> the massacres also arent timely. we're months later with the unrest settled down, but its also not something unique to iran.

The war happened as soon as one could reasonably expect it to happen given the necessary logistics involved.

> including israel go about massacring civilians

Israel does not have a top down policy of deliberately targeting/massacring civilians, Iran on the other hand does.

> nothing has substantially changed in many years. not even oct 7 is timely anymore

Oct 7 drastically changed Israel's perspective on containment and deterrence being effective policies for dealing with enemies like Hamas and Iran. Part of the problem with a containment and deterrence strategy here is that groups like Hamas and the Iranian regime don't respond to incentives in the way one would expect a rational actor to respond.

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