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Fair enough. But that means that the complaints about agile don't really have much to do with agile, they have to do with bad processes that are trying to implement agile. (Scrum is more concrete, though, and can be more validly criticized or defended without as much confusion over the definition.)


> But that means that the complaints about agile don't really have much to do with agile

Well, yeah, that's usually the problems with complaints about agile -- they aren't about agile, they are about a specific set of processes (usually ones developed, adopted, and applied by an organization not applying the principles in the Agile Manifesto) which that particular organization, or the consultant selling them, called "agile" as a way to hook on to the popularity of the buzzword.

> Scrum is more concrete, though, and can be more validly criticized or defended without as much confusion over the definition.

In principal, sure, Scrum is subject to process-based criticism, although lots of criticism of Scrum are about "what I've seen organization X, that claims to be using Scrum, do" rather than "the framework defined in the Scrum Guide".




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